Airbus's exit from AWS keeps one system running on rebranded Palantir

Airbus is moving roughly 900 applications off AWS onto France's Scaleway, citing digital sovereignty. One system stays exactly where it is: Skywise, the aviation-data platform a former Palantir engineering lead in the thread identified as Palantir Foundry under a different name.

In brief

The distrust behind the move isn't new paranoia: in 2000, a former CIA director wrote in the Wall Street Journal that Washington spies on European allies specifically for economic advantage, not just security.

A small SaaS founder in the thread said EU customers are already switching to European competitors over exactly this concern, even though his servers already sit in Europe too, and he expects the pool of US-only buyers to keep shrinking.

Airbus's real gap: 17,998 of its suppliers still run on Microsoft

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Airbus

Airbus is moving its application estate, including ERP, CRM and manufacturing systems, from AWS to the French cloud provider Scaleway, with the 70 most critical systems onboarded first. Two systems are staying exactly where they are: Skywise, the platform that aggregates and analyzes aviation data, and the Case Management Assistant that handles customers' technical queries, both remaining on AWS.

The Register's Rupert Goodwins reads the move as proof that digital sovereignty is commercially achievable, not just a political talking point, then spends the rest of his column on what still doesn't work. Airbus has roughly 18,000 suppliers, and all but two of them run on Microsoft, so the sensitive data Airbus is paying to move off American servers keeps landing back on them anyway, one supplier contract at a time. No European company yet offers an Office- or Workspace-equivalent at Airbus's scale, and Airbus is deliberately keeping frontier AI out of its critical systems rather than pretend a sovereign alternative exists. Goodwins argues large sovereignty-minded enterprises could use competitive tendering to seed a genuine European productivity suite, an idea he only half-jokingly calls a "Reverse Mayflower."

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Airbus

The thread's correction: the one system staying on AWS runs on Palantir

The discussion took the sovereignty framing at face value for about one comment before someone found the exception inside Goodwins's own carve-out.

"Skywise is basically a re-branded Palantir Foundry, and Palantir's not exactly a big believer in avoiding US tech…"

— a founder who previously worked as an engineering lead at Palantir

The two systems Airbus chose to keep on American infrastructure are, by this account, still effectively American in a deeper sense than server location.

This isn't new paranoia: a former CIA director admitted it, in print, in 2000

"Yes, my continental European friends, we have spied on you. And it's true that we use computers to sort through data by using keywords."

— a commenter who surfaced a 2000 Wall Street Journal op-ed by a former CIA director

Other commenters added their own documented cases: a 1995 New York Times report on the CIA's economic-intelligence mandate, and a European Parliament inquiry into allied surveillance, both cited in the thread.

For a small SaaS founder, the fallout already shows up as lost customers

"I've noticed over the past year an increasing number of customers leaving us to European competitors... 'happy with the product but management wants EU supplier.'"

— the founder of scanii.com, a small US-based SaaS company

Not everyone in the thread read this as a story about politics at all.

"The core reality is that cloud infrastructure is becoming commoditized, and substrate-independence is becoming not only possible but the default... Compliance with local regulatory regimes are going to be a factor as the EU continues its efforts to push European companies towards using EU infrastructure."

— an HN member since 2011

Both readings point to the same outcome: European sovereignty now carries a commercial incentive layered on top of the political one, and commercial incentives outlast any single administration.

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