Reddit called old.reddit.com a safety risk. A developer's browser logs told a different story
Reddit locked old.reddit.com behind a login wall, citing safety. A developer ran the numbers: the old interface loads in 2 seconds on 33 requests and 1MB; the new one takes 3 seconds, 112 requests, and five times the data — while pinging Reddit's servers every half-second.
Reddit now requires login to view old.reddit.com, framing it as a safety measure against scraping. A developer's own request logs show the new interface is heavier, slower to build, and phones home constantly.
The real motive surfaced fast: Reddit has licensing deals with OpenAI and Google, and blocking the lightweight old interface makes it harder for rival AI companies to scrape training data for free.
The article's own author showed up in the thread: nuke old Reddit outright if you mean it, he wrote — don't hide an economic decision behind a security excuse.
The stated reason: safety. The measured reason: architecture

Reddit began requiring a logged-in session to view old.reddit.com, the legacy interface long favored by power users for its plain HTML and minimal JavaScript. Reddit's official framing, quoted in the article, was that "old Reddit's logged-out experience is a significant source of abusive scraping" — the implication being that plain HTML is inherently less safe than the modern, JavaScript-heavy version that remains freely accessible without login.
The author tested that claim directly with browser instrumentation, comparing the two interfaces side by side. Old Reddit: roughly 33 requests, about 1MB transferred, a 2-second load, and 200 comments delivered on the initial page load. New Reddit: about 112 requests, roughly five times the data, a 3-second load despite the far lighter old version doing more work per page — New Reddit initially shows only 25 comments

"Harder to scrape" doesn't mean what it sounds like
The numbers undercut Reddit's own justification: a JavaScript-heavy, constantly-phoning-home interface isn't structurally safer than plain HTML — if anything, plain HTML is easier to rate-limit and monitor server-side, since every request is a discrete, cacheable page fetch rather than a stream of client-side API calls. The author's read is that "safety" is doing PR work for a different motive: a commenter surfaced that Reddit has struck licensing deals with OpenAI and Google for its content — deals that are worth far more if competing AI companies can't freely scrape the same data through old Reddit's low-friction HTML pages. Blocking the cheap, scrapable interface while leaving the expensive, JavaScript-gated one open isn't a security posture; it's a moat around a revenue stream.
The thread's most pointed line came from the article's own author, replying directly in the comments: "Then they should nuke Old Reddit rather than offer a wishy-washy 'we're being scraped' explanation. My beef is that under all of the layers of PR this ultimately comes down to an economic decision dressed up as a safety one." If the real goal is protecting licensing revenue, he argued, Reddit should say so — not invoke user safety to justify a change that measurably makes the site heavier and slower for the humans still using it.
The obituary this thread has written before
For plenty of longtime users, this is one entry in a longer list. One commenter with a decade-plus on the platform called it "the second death of reddit, the penultimate one," tracing the platform's decline back to its 2015 venture capital raise and the monetization pressure that followed — the 2023 API lockdown that first blocked third-party clients, the interface overhaul, the steady closing of every door that let users or bots access content without going through Reddit's own funnel. Not everyone was mourning: one reply welcomed the change flatly — losing frictionless access to old Reddit, they said, "will help me break my reddit addiction splendidly." For a platform whose entire value proposition was user-generated content given away for free, gating the cheapest way to read that content behind a login is a small technical change with a much larger business logic underneath it.
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