Larry Ellison

We Energies won't let Oracle break more ground on its Port Washington campus without $7 billion in collateral: the tariff penalty for any data-center developer whose S&P rating falls below single-A-minus. Oracle's is BBB, two notches under that line, and it just got cut again.

Wisconsin regulators declined to waive the rule, so the guarantee costs Oracle over $100 million a year. In the thread, one member says a friend spent five years on Oracle's own team building its cloud data centers worldwide, then got laid off from it this year.

Oracle's annual report shows it shed about 21,000 roles in a year as it 'reshapes around AI' — roughly 15% of a ~141,000 headcount. But a commenter pinned the asterisk: this is one year of attrition disclosed in a filing, not a fresh layoff round, and Oracle still lists ~700 open engineering jobs.

Where the thread turned: a salesperson's account that Oracle has frozen development on profitable non-AI products to feed data-center spend it took on debt for OpenAI.