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A $180k SF salary buys you 'junior', and the thread blames Prop 13, not OpenAI (nytimes.com)

The article pins SF's squeeze on demand from AI money — OpenAI and Anthropic salaries pushing rents up. One person quoted thought $200k meant never worrying; she and friends now skip restaurants for potlucks.

A startup founder in the thread said $180k now mostly buys 'new grads or relatively junior talent', and a househld near $400k calling itself 'not completely hopeless' drew scorn. The sharpest replies pointed past salaries to Prop 13, zoning, and a metro with almost no high-rises.

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George Hotz: AI doom narratives exist to contextualize the valuations (geohot.github.io)

Hotz contrasts Anthropic's policy-and-danger output with rivals' plain engineering posts, and reads recursive-self-improvement warnings as marketing copy. The doom, he claims, values the industry on hypothetical future capability, not today's.

The thread's best objection turns his evidence on him: if institutional investors think mass unemployment is nonsense and invest accordingly, where is the doom-to-valuation link?

Another notes the export-control fight makes danger talk expensive, not profitable; one calls the post projection.