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Brazil's electoral court has fined Meta daily. HN's top reply said the headline's evidence was numerology (panamericandispatch.org)

Brazil's electoral court ordered Meta to apply identical criteria to both campaigns, with a fine of R$500,000 a day. Watchdog groups filed new screenshots as evidence.

The thread split the exhibits into laughable ones and one that a commenter said was real.

🌍Other ★ 471 · 💬 326 · 3 days ago · #AI#policy#social media#Instagram#Meta#Meta AI+2

Not just a headline — the discussion unpacked

The top HN threads: facts from the discussions, both sides, insider voices. Email, Telegram, or RSS.

"Web crypto is always snake oil" — and the cryptographers show up to disagree with each other (devever.net)

Landau calls it an "incoherent cryptosystem": the server that wants to read your messages is the same server shipping the JavaScript that's supposed to stop it — and it can push different code to one IP at any moment. He extends the charge to Signal, WhatsApp and iMessage.

The pushback is credentialed on both sides. One security researcher says you can build Signal from source yourself, so it doesn't apply — then, in the same breath, points out iMessage isn't really end-to-end anyway because iCloud Backup is on by default.

The Chat Control panic thread, and the commenter who says the encryption-breaking version already lost (heise.de)

Heise reports the Council revived an expired rule letting messaging providers voluntarily scan for known child-abuse imagery, pushed as new legislation on an urgent second-reading track right before recess — where blocking needs a near-impossible absolute majority.

A commenter untangles it: the far more dangerous Chat Control 2.0, with mandatory scanning that would weaken end-to-end encryption, is not what's being voted here — and protest has arguably pushed 2.0 off the table for good.

The KIDS Act uses a negligence standard to make age-checking the safe default for every site (eff.org)

The EFF reads the KIDS Act (built around KOSA, H.R.7757) as age verification by indirection. Instead of mandating ID checks, it sets a 'know or should have known' negligence standard for under-13 and 13-16 users, pushing every covered service to verify all ages to avoid liability. The result, EFF argues, is a less private internet for adults too.

The most-cited voice was a founder who dislikes the bill yet explained its support: for non-tech-savvy homes the real choice today is no devices or kids raised by addictive feeds, because the industry refuses to give parents working tools.

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Meta moved up to half its core engineers to data labeling and RLHF (newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com)

An estimated 4,000-5,000 software engineers, out of about 25,000, now sit in a new 6,500-person org doing data labeling and RLHF. The autonomy-to-labeler whiplash is the part people on core infra and security teams can't stomach.

Add keystroke and mouse tracking with no opt-out, rolled out in late April, and a CISO who resigned the day after an AI support flow let attackers hijack Instagram accounts.

The flip: a former Meta engineer says the well-run orgs were all acquired — the homegrown ones were always the mess.