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An ESO astronomer sets the sky's limit at 100,000 faint satellites (eso.org)

Operators have filed for 1.7 million satellites; an ESO study finds ground astronomy breaks past 100,000, calling the rest 'devastating.'

The proposed fix is a brightness floor of magnitude 7. SpaceX's mooted million would streak dozens of trails across each VLT frame; Reflect Orbital's 50,000 mirrors would outshine Venus.

The thread pitted progress against dark skies and flagged the launcher missing from the doom list: China.

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'Africa is leapfrogging to Starlink' — except it's pricier than fibre, froze signups for 7 months, and cuts out in the rain (economist.com)

The article's real argument: Africa built cheap mobile-first internet in the 2000s, and that infrastructure hasn't kept pace with streaming and AI-era data demand, so Starlink fills a reliability gap — but at a premium, often above fibre, with a 7-month signup freeze to protect quality and rain-driven outages.

The thread's other fight is about why South Africa — Musk's birthplace — bans it: not 'national security' or 'hand 30% to the state,' but a licensing rule requiring 30% ownership by historically disadvantaged locals.

A rocket startup is buying a 30-year-old satellite network for $8 billion (investors.rocketlabcorp.com)

Iridium throws off $871.7M in revenue and a 57% margin on a constellation born from 1990s Motorola. Rocket Lab gets its globally-coordinated L-band spectrum, 2.55 million subscribers, and a guaranteed launch backlog as it scales its Neutron rocket.

The skeptics in the thread aren't sold: a 30-year-old network won't out-speed Starlink, and a much smaller company swallowing one twenty times its size only has to make sense to Wall Street.

OpenAI's own advisers are telling Altman to delay the IPO until 2027 (nytimes.com)

The New York Times reports that Sam Altman's advisers want OpenAI to hold its IPO until next year, citing SpaceX share volatility and OpenAI's own financial strain. The first reaction on HN was to quote that line back and ask the obvious question.

If the company isn't blowing smoke, one reader wrote, what's there to fear from public markets? An established commenter was blunter: the delay reads as a company in deep trouble, kicking the can until sentiment improves.

📈Biz ★ 100 · 💬 87 · Jun 26 · #AI#markets#startups#OpenAI#Sam Altman#SpaceX

Hoffman calls SpaceX 'the IAC of AI', buying its way into relevance (fortune.com)

SpaceX's S-1 projects $320bn of AI-services revenue by 2030 at a 74% margin, dwarfing launch and Starlink, which is how the IPO valuation was supported. Its 2025 AI segment was mostly Twitter, with Grok near $0.5bn.

The thread's flip: Hoffman invests in both OpenAI and Anthropic and sits on Microsoft's board, so commenters weigh the vested interest against numbers that still don't add up.

📈Biz ★ 224 · 💬 255 · Jun 25 · #AI#markets#startups#Anthropic#Cursor#OpenAI+3

Your 401(k) may soon ride on SpaceX's valuation, whether you want it or not (theguardian.com)

"What exactly can an individual do?" asked the thread. Many 401(k)s offer only a handful of funds; once the indexes add SpaceX, you're exposed unless you flee to value or international funds — or short the stock, which most people won't.

One sharp correction undercut the panic: SpaceX hasn't been added to the S&P 500. It asked for the rules to be waived; S&P said no. The exposure is coming, but it isn't here yet.

📈Biz ★ 195 · 💬 112 · Jun 20 · #economy#markets#space#Elon Musk#S&P 500#SpaceX+1

SpaceX is paying $60B for a VS Code fork that wraps rivals' models (reuters.com)

Cursor's founders went from zero to multigenerational wealth in four years, on a product the thread keeps calling a wrapper: an editor fork, a harness, and prompts. Its in-house model, Composer 2.5, is built on Kimi K2.5.

The structure is the catch: this is not a cash deal. SpaceX pays in its own stock, diluting shareholders, while telling IPO investors it sees a $26T addressable market.

And the loudest skeptics can't explain why investors keep funding it anyway.

Morgan Stanley says SpaceX hits $3.4T by 2040. That's 182x last year's sales (matteast.io)

The forecast needs a 79% EBITDA margin at $3.4T — versus Aramco's 55% and software's 45% — which would make SpaceX roughly 6% of US GDP.

The thread split: one camp said the same 'highly unlikely' was said of early Tesla; the other replied that the most extreme Tesla predictions never came true either.

Morningstar pegs SpaceX at $63 a share, with a 7% shot at the rosy case (morningstar.com)

SpaceX's own S-1 bases its valuation on a $26.5 trillion AI total addressable market — versus $370B for space operations and $1.6T for connectivity. So a rocket company is being priced mostly as an AI play.

Morningstar's downside case has the orbital data center project quietly abandoned around 2028, the way Tesla walked away from small-car factories. And a reader pulled the governance line from the prospectus: Musk keeps ~85% voting power through 10-vote Class B shares; public investors share 15%.

📈Biz ★ 175 · 💬 173 · Jun 9 · #space#SpaceX